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why is the nra so strong, aaron? >> well, i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coasts are very much pro gun control but the middle of the country, even a lot of the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially, are very pro-gun rights. so, you know, we see in the last few days here even senators -- democrat senators like max baucus from montana, even al franken from minnesota hesitated at first to endorse the assault weapons ban. i think this is just a very tough issue for these politicians to deal with, particularly in the middle of the country and when that happens, their reflex often is to vote no. >> roland, one thing that amazed me in this, not just the membership, was the favorability rating. because it seemed to me, and being there in newtown, that something had changed in this country. that something had changed in every single one of us to see what happened there happen. yet after newtown, 41% of americans view the organization favorably. that is
why is the nra so strong, aaron? >> well, i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coasts are very much pro gun control but the middle of the country, even a lot of the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially, are very pro-gun rights. so, you know, we see in the last few days here even senators -- democrat senators like max baucus from montana, even al franken from minnesota hesitated at first to endorse the assault weapons...
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why is the nra so strong? >> i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coless are very much pro-gun control. the middle of the country, even a lot of the the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially are very pro-gun rights. so we see in the last few days here, even senators, democratic senators like baucus from montana, franken, he is dated to endorse the assault weapons ban. this is a tough issue for politicians to deal with, particularly in the middle of the country. when that happens their reflex is often to vote no. >> roland, one thing that amazed me, was the favorability rating. it seemed to me, and being there in newtown, that something had changed in this country, that something had changed in every single one of us, to see what happened there happen. yet after newtown, 41% of americans view the organization favorably. that is unchanged from two years ago. that is unchanged. how is the nra not taking a hit? >> here's the deal. because people
why is the nra so strong? >> i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coless are very much pro-gun control. the middle of the country, even a lot of the the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially are very pro-gun rights. so we see in the last few days here, even senators, democratic senators like baucus from montana, franken, he is dated to endorse the assault weapons ban. this is a tough issue for politicians to deal with,...
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it's half right there that the nra is crazy. of course, nothing has ever been absolute about the second amendment. we can't fire shoulder-held missile launchers in airports. >> or even have access to an automatic weapon. >> it's absurd. >> of course it's absurd. he's not talking to america. he's talking to a fairly slim slice of the electorate that controls the house republicans and also has a lot of influence over democratic senators from rural states. >> i know that, the nra's wayne lapierre says gun owners would stand their ground. let's listen. >> we are not people to be tr l trivializ trivialized, marginized or demonized as unreasonable. we're not children who need to be parented, misguided, bitter clingers to guns and religion. we believe in our right to defend ourselves and our families with semi-automatic firearms technology. we believe that if neither the criminal nor the political class and their bodyguards and security people are limited by magazine capacity, we shouldn't be limited in our capacity, either. >> you kno
it's half right there that the nra is crazy. of course, nothing has ever been absolute about the second amendment. we can't fire shoulder-held missile launchers in airports. >> or even have access to an automatic weapon. >> it's absurd. >> of course it's absurd. he's not talking to america. he's talking to a fairly slim slice of the electorate that controls the house republicans and also has a lot of influence over democratic senators from rural states. >> i know that,...
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need to stand up for nra. the nra just played played specifically into that strategy. >> i think we all agree on that. >> and they're wrong on the facts. the president basically said not that he is opposed to having more armed guards in schools, he is just saying he is skeptical that solves the problem in schools. and in fact the white house kept proposing more money for the safe schools program. and it was congress in 2012 that killed that money in congress. and if you look at the proposal they put forth today, they basically say, they explicitly say that if some schools want to have more armed guards, that's up to them. but we want to leave to it the local districts to decide on their own. >> which interesting, because you now have the nra arguing -- >> for larger government. >> for larger federal government, putting armed people like government troops into schools. as opposed to leaving them -- >> the nra came out with a proposal to put guards in schools, everybody from the president's party dumped on them.
need to stand up for nra. the nra just played played specifically into that strategy. >> i think we all agree on that. >> and they're wrong on the facts. the president basically said not that he is opposed to having more armed guards in schools, he is just saying he is skeptical that solves the problem in schools. and in fact the white house kept proposing more money for the safe schools program. and it was congress in 2012 that killed that money in congress. and if you look at the...
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but to nra's wayne lapierre, that's what they are. at an awards ceremony last night, he the leader of the nra explained why. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word. just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throughout all of this country to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. there's only two reasons for a federal list on gun owners. to either tax them or take them. it's the only reason. and anyone who says that's excessive, president obama says you're an absolutist. >> well, the nra has been unapologetic in its defense of gun rights, of course, fighting even nationally popular controls like background checks and ammunition limits. in fact, the nation's gun extremists out there have hit the panic button in their delusional belief that president obama sits atop a tyrannical government in their delusion to take away guns. joining me dana will bank and former san francisco mayor willie brown. i want to go to mayor brown on this. it just seems to me there are other reasons
but to nra's wayne lapierre, that's what they are. at an awards ceremony last night, he the leader of the nra explained why. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word. just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throughout all of this country to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. there's only two reasons for a federal list on gun owners. to either tax them or take them. it's the only reason. and anyone who says that's...
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there's a disagreement in the nra. i don't know if you view it as a smackdown, it appeared to be to me. what do you make of this public divide within the nra? >> it's very, very interesting. of course, the nra has been thrust into the news because of the tragedy at newtown. they have a chance to actually grow their brand or hurt their brand and i think it remains to be seen exactly what the long-term effects of this are. but i saw that ad using the president's children. i think the spirit and the intent, the message behind the ad, look, his children are protected by people with heavy artillery and guns, wouldn't you want your kids to be protected the same way? that makes sense. the problem is, personally, my opinion is, i don't like using children in political ads of any kind. i think consistently speaking, i also don't like the president when he uses children to sign a bill, obama care uses children as props, he used them when he did the executive orders about gun control. so those types of things on both sides to me
there's a disagreement in the nra. i don't know if you view it as a smackdown, it appeared to be to me. what do you make of this public divide within the nra? >> it's very, very interesting. of course, the nra has been thrust into the news because of the tragedy at newtown. they have a chance to actually grow their brand or hurt their brand and i think it remains to be seen exactly what the long-term effects of this are. but i saw that ad using the president's children. i think the spirit...
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the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is somethi
the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the...
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this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public, where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to with what makes sense -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. i think the will of the populous has changed. when the rubber hits the wheel in washington, it's still going to be difficult. you have the practicality of the debt crisis. the sequester hasn't even been handled, let alone immigration, which the president promised to do. i don't kn
this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i...
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we appreciate it. >>>. >> still to come, a major labbyist for the nra admitted the nra was wrong. >>> some of the most powerful people in the world flock to a speech by the ceo of yahoo!. and then something truly bizarre happened. >>> a catholic hospital sued for two children's deaths. some are calling the defense utter hypocrisy. >>> later in the show what made a hedge fund manager say this? >> i'm telling you, he's like the crybaby in the schoolyard. i went to a tough school in queens. they used to beat up the little jewish boys. he was light one of these little jewish boys crying that the world was taking advantage of him. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. >>> ill advised. that's what jim
we appreciate it. >>>. >> still to come, a major labbyist for the nra admitted the nra was wrong. >>> some of the most powerful people in the world flock to a speech by the ceo of yahoo!. and then something truly bizarre happened. >>> a catholic hospital sued for two children's deaths. some are calling the defense utter hypocrisy. >>> later in the show what made a hedge fund manager say this? >> i'm telling you, he's like the crybaby in the...
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and wasn't to ask ye have to ta nra. the nra ad just came out, pretty controversial. i want to point out to our viewers, this ad is only running on the sportsmen cable network, about a third of the homes in the u.s. here is a clip. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids -- >> here is my question to you. you hear this voice talking about armed security in schools. interesting the nra is choosing to focus on that sliver of this whole argument versus taking on, you know, something much broader, that the president mentioned today. ie an assault weapons ban. you surprised by that? >> you know, i was initially surprised by that. what i can tell you is that, you know, time and cnn will have polling out later this afternoon, and one thing people might find is that arming guards in schools is more popular than i think a lot of people -- a lot of people i know who first reacted to that nra press conference a few weeks ago really appreciated. it is actually not an unpopular idea an
and wasn't to ask ye have to ta nra. the nra ad just came out, pretty controversial. i want to point out to our viewers, this ad is only running on the sportsmen cable network, about a third of the homes in the u.s. here is a clip. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids -- >> here is my question to you. you hear this voice talking about armed security in schools. interesting the nra is...
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a spokesman for the nra said that it is disappointing, but not surprising that she, senator feinstein, is focused on curtailing the constitution instead of protecting -- excuse me, prosecuting criminals or fixing our broken mental health care system. many say that they are not ready to support a new assault weapons ban. lou: thank you very much. shannon bream, fox news correspondent. one side claims we must reduce firepower available to those who were killed to prevent deaths when we can. many say that the 1994 assault weapons ban did nothing to rectify this. our two guests join us now to discuss the matter. thank you both for being with us tonight. are you hopeful that dianne feinstein's legislation will actually be template for what the democratic party will achieve? >> well, her bill is part of what the democratic party hopes to achieve and what the president hopes to achieve. gun control has always been a tough night. i helped lead the fight in 1994 when he passes them the first time. sure enough, we did get it done, unfortunately at a ten-year sunset, but the last in congress lik
a spokesman for the nra said that it is disappointing, but not surprising that she, senator feinstein, is focused on curtailing the constitution instead of protecting -- excuse me, prosecuting criminals or fixing our broken mental health care system. many say that they are not ready to support a new assault weapons ban. lou: thank you very much. shannon bream, fox news correspondent. one side claims we must reduce firepower available to those who were killed to prevent deaths when we can. many...
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gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to hunt with what makes sense in terms of -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. >> so you think some form of legislation may be possible? >> i think in terms of the will of the populac
gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the...
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>> the nra didn't like the way it went, but a big question is how powerful and influential is the nra here on capitol hill? and the answer might be still plenty powerful, despite the massacre in connecticut and today's shotgun shooting in california which left a student wounded. another s.w.a.t. team at a school. another shooting incident. the images from near bakersfield, california hit networks as vice president biden said he'll send to president obama on tuesday a proposal to change u.s. gun laws. >> diminish the probability that what we've seen will okur and diminish the probability that our children are at risk in their schools. >> reporter: biden who met with hunting groups today and the nra, is expected to recommend a new ban on assault weapons and large-capacity clips. and setting up a stronger background check sim. no exceptions for gun shows and the internet market where 40% of guns get sold in and out without any check to stop sales to criminals or the mentally ill. a mass shooting survivor says changing that is job one. not removing the second amendment, that's not what we
>> the nra didn't like the way it went, but a big question is how powerful and influential is the nra here on capitol hill? and the answer might be still plenty powerful, despite the massacre in connecticut and today's shotgun shooting in california which left a student wounded. another s.w.a.t. team at a school. another shooting incident. the images from near bakersfield, california hit networks as vice president biden said he'll send to president obama on tuesday a proposal to change...
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sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these things, but again, i would just suggest to you that in fact almost none of the killings in chicago, the deadliest place in america, almost none of those killings involved any kind of exotic weapon. they involved a system which is broken down, where the police have broken down, where the process is broken down. and so i would start and say, you know, the total number of use of those kind of devices you're talking about in the entire country is very, very small. and had there been an armed guard at that school, the odds are that by the second or third sh
sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these...
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the nra got a seat at the table. crag bosswell has more. >> you all know this is a complicated issue. >> reporter: vice president joe biden will have a list of proposals to help reduce gun violence ready for president obama by tuesday. >> a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. >> reporter: he's focused on the types of weapons to be owned and month the suggestions from the task force is a ban on high-capacity gun clips and closing what is called the gun show loophole. the administration said it's looking for legislative proposals and may try executive action. >> the truth is that through executive action, it's very tough for the white house to make that much of a difference and they not going ban the show or close the gun show loophome. >> reporter: they say attendance is up dramatically. the loophole allows unlicensed sellers to sell weapons without a background check. president obama asks r the task force after the mass shooting of 20 school children and six educators in new
the nra got a seat at the table. crag bosswell has more. >> you all know this is a complicated issue. >> reporter: vice president joe biden will have a list of proposals to help reduce gun violence ready for president obama by tuesday. >> a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. >> reporter: he's focused on the types of weapons to be owned and month the suggestions from the task force is a ban on high-capacity gun clips and closing...
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until now, he's been fighting a weak enemy because there's no money or force of the nra. one of the group's vice president's task force will meet with this week and now rising to fight the nra and led by gabby giffords and husband mark kelly who sat down with diane sawyer. >> i have a gun. we're both gun owners. we are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment but we have to do something to keep the guns from getting in to the wrong hands. >> when it can happen to children in the classroom, it's time to say -- >> enough. >> giffords is a former legislat legislator, makes her perfectly poised to lead a new pac and new legislation from the president to sport and including background checks for every gun, banning -- every gun buyer and magazines and making gun trafficking laws national. but will any of that pass and make a difference? let's spin. i welcome gabby giffords in to the fight because they're so decimated. there's billions of dollars to be made in gun rights and nothing to be made in gun control. i like the white house's first step and this may get watered down as we
until now, he's been fighting a weak enemy because there's no money or force of the nra. one of the group's vice president's task force will meet with this week and now rising to fight the nra and led by gabby giffords and husband mark kelly who sat down with diane sawyer. >> i have a gun. we're both gun owners. we are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment but we have to do something to keep the guns from getting in to the wrong hands. >> when it can happen to children in the...
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i got a lot of nra money and a lot of nra members sloshing around in my district, and i have to explain this to them, but i'm going to find a way. >> vice president biden seems to be very determined. i mean, he has been so intense on this, there would be egg on his face if something didn't happen, i think. and i think he is more than well intended. are you hearing from anyone, any of the people who have been to these meetings as to whether they believe something is going to get done? >> well, sure. we've been in there a couple of times now, and we absolutely believe, first of all, that he is the right person to be doing this. he was instrumental in passing some of the really good gun laws we passed in this country the last time we did it. >> the clinton crime bill. >> during the clinton administration. he is very close to law enforcement. he is from kind of the heart of the country, and he understands -- he understands how people think about this issue. and basically, people want their kids to be safe. they don't want felons getting guns. and in fact, we know how to stop that from happe
i got a lot of nra money and a lot of nra members sloshing around in my district, and i have to explain this to them, but i'm going to find a way. >> vice president biden seems to be very determined. i mean, he has been so intense on this, there would be egg on his face if something didn't happen, i think. and i think he is more than well intended. are you hearing from anyone, any of the people who have been to these meetings as to whether they believe something is going to get done?...
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very short statement from the nra. but essentially the nra is skeptical of a lot of what's being pushed out there by the white house and lawmakers up on capitol hill. they say instead of focussing on guns and gun owners, that all of these lawmakers need to be focused on issues such as mental health, need to focus on things like violent video games. one of the things that the nra has also suggested is putting armed guards at all of the schools in order to protect students and to prevent something like what we saw in connecticut from happening again. so again they believe that you need to take sort of a broad approach here, a broad look at this problem, not just look at those who own guns. >> let's talk about the meeting today. you have details for us as to what the vice president is actually proposing. >> that's right. again, the vice president is looking for sort of broad options here. and that's why they're having these meetings. but right up front, both the vice president and president are looking at things such as r
very short statement from the nra. but essentially the nra is skeptical of a lot of what's being pushed out there by the white house and lawmakers up on capitol hill. they say instead of focussing on guns and gun owners, that all of these lawmakers need to be focused on issues such as mental health, need to focus on things like violent video games. one of the things that the nra has also suggested is putting armed guards at all of the schools in order to protect students and to prevent...
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i did not think the nra ad was a smart move. i thought that the substantive case then made was virtually indisputable. it is the case that there is a double standard. we can debate whether the president deserves to have a double standard, particularly with respect to the secret service. but having said that, the ad in my view may president obama a sympathetic figure in the one way that they did not want to make a sympathetic. lou: you can argue that they could have done a better -- you can argue lots of things, but the fact that they point out very specifically that there is a double standard. the nra was not saying that he did not deserve nor his children deserve that extra protection. we all know that they do. the point is, so does every american and they're children. every one of those young lives is precious to all of us. thank you for being with us. thank you. up next, it has been one year since the president's jobs council hazmat. it has been a year since the president's jobs council hazmat. 23 million folks still without
i did not think the nra ad was a smart move. i thought that the substantive case then made was virtually indisputable. it is the case that there is a double standard. we can debate whether the president deserves to have a double standard, particularly with respect to the secret service. but having said that, the ad in my view may president obama a sympathetic figure in the one way that they did not want to make a sympathetic. lou: you can argue that they could have done a better -- you can...
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the nra was disappointed. they felt they had been invited so people could see they were there, but there wasn't an intention to hear them out. did you agree with that? >> i thought we had a real conversation, and it wasn't just a lecture. we had some different positions on some issues, but really a lot more agreement on many of the multifaceted aspects of the problem than really sometimes come out in the media. when i spoke as i do in colleges and conferences around this country. i talk about how important it is on this issue to focus correctly on the language. if you ask the question and focus on guns, if we ask the question, in whose hands were the guns, we find we're in a lot of agreement. we talked about civil commitment laws. we talked about the need for greater penalties for gun running. we talked about the problems that the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms with giving law enforcement agencies the tools to do their job, such as the niban program. i believe the vice president was very supportive o
the nra was disappointed. they felt they had been invited so people could see they were there, but there wasn't an intention to hear them out. did you agree with that? >> i thought we had a real conversation, and it wasn't just a lecture. we had some different positions on some issues, but really a lot more agreement on many of the multifaceted aspects of the problem than really sometimes come out in the media. when i spoke as i do in colleges and conferences around this country. i talk...
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if that's what the majority of nra members believe, do you think the nra leadership and yourself, sir, would get behind regulations like that? >> well, let me tell you what our organization -- our take on the gun show issue. we see a very important distinction between a private sale or transfer. when i sell a gun and i have, to four kinds of individuals and i'm not a dealer. i've sold guns to my friends to my family, to my coworkers or to my neighbors. not a lot but over the years here or there. i know who i sold the gun to. if i'm at a gun show, i'm basically in the same position a retail firearms dealer is in. i don't have a clue who's coming over to my table and we support background checks for the transfer of firearms at gun shows because you don't know who you're selling the gun to. >> john: i applaud you for that sir. gang members sell guns to their friends as well. you can't sell a car to a friend without letting the government know you've done it. do you think it should be seizier to sell an automatic weapon to an acquaintance than a vehicle? >> well, talk about a loaded quest
if that's what the majority of nra members believe, do you think the nra leadership and yourself, sir, would get behind regulations like that? >> well, let me tell you what our organization -- our take on the gun show issue. we see a very important distinction between a private sale or transfer. when i sell a gun and i have, to four kinds of individuals and i'm not a dealer. i've sold guns to my friends to my family, to my coworkers or to my neighbors. not a lot but over the years here or...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's comments regarding the president said i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence as i proposed. max bacchus said we need a law in montana instead of one size fits all directive of washington. not the fringe republicans, not behind the nra ad, but still, similar talking points from them that would fall with some of the things we have heard out of the nra, chris. does your party or some within your party need -- since rick perry said it's about prayer, do they need a come to jesus moment, as well? >> he
the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's...
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the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping living with moderate to semeans living with pain.is it could also mean living with joint damage. humira, adalimumab, can help treat more than just the pain. for many adults, humira is clinically proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage. humira can lower
the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our...